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Horizon Shading hourly - monthly difference?
André Mermoud replied to Rapha123's topic in Shadings and tracking
I don't know. Normally the values of a given variable should match between the monthly table and the hourly values on the ASCII file, as this is the same variable in the program. However you are right. I just tried and also observed a slight discrepancy (0.8%, i.e. 0.3 kWh/m2/year on the horizon loss in the monthly tables). This is probably due to accounting the monthly values when the Incident irradiance is below the threshold of 10 W/m2, what is not done in the hourly values. I will check. -
How can I know how many panels there are per inverter in PVsyst?
André Mermoud replied to Iggleton's topic in PV Components
Yes, within a sub-array, PVsyst will share the strings (not the number of modules) equally between the specified number of MPPT inputs. Now if you have, for example 9 strings to be shared between 2 MPPT inputs, one will have 5 strings and the other one 4. -
ASCII Import - Irradiance >1000 read as error
André Mermoud replied to samvance's topic in Problems / Bugs
Please check that there is no "Tousend character" in your numbers (like for example 1'000). -
The shading factor calculation will indeed be drastically improved in the next update V 6.40, to be released beginning of January 2015. However this problem is due to another problem (the verification of the shading scene), and desabling "Ignode Interpenetration of PV fields" should normally avoid it. If there is no improvement with the next version 6.40, please send us the full project to support@pvsyst.com, using "Files > Export project".
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Shading: Linear and Acc. to Module Strings Yield Same Result
André Mermoud replied to Dan Nicksy's topic in Problems / Bugs
The calculation of the shading factor "According to module strings" is indeed not quite reliable in some special cases like this one. Please remember that this calculation should be considered as an approximate tool. The program analyses the shading state of each summit of the rectangle-string, and one intermediate point on the segment. Therefore a little shade on a part of the rectangle-string might be not recognized. For such a special condition, you should use the "Module Layout" option. Here the shading state of the corner of each sub-module is analysed. Now for the object not taken into account due to its base altitude, perhaps this is a result of the optimizing algorithm. In the 3D editor menu "Tools" please try to desable "Optimized shading calculation". -
How to compare the measured exported energy with the simulation?
André Mermoud replied to Sebastian.stan's topic in How-to
This is indeed the right way: in the part "Tools > Measured Data Analysis" you have to define the parameters corresponding to your system, and run the simulation. Now in the results dialog, you can open "Predefined graphs", and here you have several ways of comparing your data to the simulation. Sorry, this is a part of the program that has been neglected since a very long time. Even the DEMO project (N13 Motorway) doesn't work anymore. We will modernize it in a future version of PVsyst, and make this use more explicit and user-friendly. -
In PVsyst and for Northern hemisphere, North corresponsd to Azimuth = 180°. Please see our FAQ How is defined the plane Orientation ?.
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Yes the sequence is correct. But at the point 3, the POA modeled should be equal to the input measured POA (within some few permille). If you observe discrepancies (in the morning or evening), this means that you have not imported your data correctly, or the data themselves are not correct. Please check your file in "Databases > Meteo Tables and Graphs > Check Meteo data", and here press F1 for explanations in the help (especially about the Timeshift).
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Not directly in the report. The report has a fixed format. But the button "Monthly tables" allows to show (and print) tables of monthly values for any chosen variable among the simulation variables, including the PR.
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You can now create a one-year Clear day meteo data (MET file) in "Import Meteo data", datasource "Clear sky model".
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PVsyst simulation using spectral irradiance datasets
André Mermoud replied to ckoessler's topic in Simulations
In the present time, PVsyst performs an irradiance correction for amorphous modules only. Spoectral effect is usually admitted as rather low in yearly simulations for crystalline modules. We will probably develop a possibility of taking a spectral correction into account in a next version, but not before several months. This is not in our first priorities. By the way such a tool will deal with spectral corrections models (as a function, for example, of the water contents of the amosphere). Now for the use of a reference cell, please see our FAQ For Meteo measurements, should we use a pyranometer or a reference cell ? -
Sorry, in the present time PVsyst defines user's needs in terms of global load energy, and doesn't involve inverters. This will be developed in a next version.
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In principle, in recent versions, when you have meteo data created by original POA data, PVsyst doesn't allow to use the Perez model for the next transpositions. Using the Perez model should obviously give different results (not matching your input POA values).
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Shading: Linear and Acc. to Module Strings Yield Same Result
André Mermoud replied to Dan Nicksy's topic in Problems / Bugs
Probably you have not specified the rectangles correctly ? In the option "According to module strings", button "Partitoin in module chains", one rectangle should represent a full string of modules, not one only module ! -
The Voc is computed according to the one-diode model. However the temperature coefficient is not quite linear with the temperature. On the other hand, the values of the one-diode model are not necessarily conpliant with the value specified in the datasheets. Please see our FAQ How to adjust the Voc temperature coefficient ?.
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Since the version 6.27, it is possible to specify a Maximal Power value (PMax), which may be higher than the PNom value when the inverter's temperature is sufficiently low.
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The model doesn't "compute" wind speed of course, but it can use wind speed data if present in the meteo data. This is taken into accout through the parameter Uv in the Heat transfer parameters ("Detailed losses > Thermal parameters"). Now the Wind velocity values may be read in hourly values in your imported data when available (including from Meteonorm). If they are specified only in monthly values, PVsyst is not able to generate synthetic hourly values (we don't know any model for that). In this case de specified monthly values (averages) will be used during the simulation. But sorry, we don't have really reliable values to propose for the Uv parameter.
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Shading: Linear and Acc. to Module Strings Yield Same Result
André Mermoud replied to Dan Nicksy's topic in Problems / Bugs
In the simulation results, you havs always the same "Shading loss factor" in the irradiance losses. This corresponds to what I name "Linear Losses", i.e. the losses due to the irradiance deficit. Now when you define shadings "According to module strings", you have an additional loss named "Shadings: electrical loss according to strings" in the Array losses group. This is the effect of the electrical mismatch. -
When using the "NetMetering" option, you should specify the energy user's needs (the self-consumption). You have several way for doing that, including the option "Load values read on ASCII file". Here you can prepare a CSV file (for example in EXCEL) with hourly values. Sorry, in the present time the sub-hourly values (for example values by 15 minutes) are not treated. You have to construct a file (in EXCEL) with corresponding hourly values. This will be available in a next version of PVsyst.
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How to define precise hourly values of the user's needs?
André Mermoud replied to Arnaud's topic in How-to
This is indeed the case when you choose "Monthly normalizations": in this case the daily sum should indeed match the pre-specified monthly value. For the monthly sum you should specify the exact waited daily sum (i.e. 12 * 2.77 + 12 * 2.0 kW). Now this will no arise with "seasonal modulation" or "constant over the year, where the daily sum is not predefined. -
Additional tracker shading losses in 6.1
André Mermoud replied to jfish's topic in Shadings and tracking
Getting shading losses for backtracking is quite normal. Please see our FAQ How is calculated the Shading Loss on diffuse with tracking systems ? -
What is the P50-P90 annualized probabilistic production ?
André Mermoud replied to mmonesterio's topic in Simulations
The statistical distribution underlying the P50-P90 concept applies to a set of years. If you have a TMY meteo data year, you will get a result corresponding to P50. But you cannot define a P90 value without further information about the statistical distribution of several meteorological years for this site. The Average and Variance for the P90 definition are averages over several years. It has nothing to do with the hourly distribution. Now defining a P50 or P90 value for the year 10 or 20 or any other one doesn't have any meaning. The P90 yield for a given system, means a probability of 90% that the yield of any given year is above this value. -
[EDIT] With recent versions of PVsyst you should be able to use your licence the same way. You may just need to synchronize it through the menu "Licence -> Status and activation" after your upgrade.