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This depends on the system you have defined of course. With tracking systems you will see the involved parameters. If you see "profile angle", you are probably in a sheds system.
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Results parameters: ShdElec vs MisLoss
André Mermoud replied to george__'s topic in Shadings and tracking
Your explanations are correct. However the mismatch between the performances of each modules have nothing to do with the sahdings. For the mismatch due to modules: in the "Detailed parameters" dialog, please see the tool "Mismatch > Detailed computation". For the mismatch due to shadings, please see the graph in the "Module Layout" tool, page "Shading3D": press "calculate" and have a look on the I/V curves. -
The separators are not recognized. In EXCEL, you have a tool "Data > Convert" for importing data which are not recognized (select the whole column before using this tool).
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You should choose the part which gives the higher losses in your system. By the way you can specify (add) an equivalent part corresponding to the other side if necessary.
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The help gives the list (and properties) of almost 20 popular data sources that you can directly import in PVsyst: See the help "Meteo Database > Notes on Meteo > Meteonote2_Meteorological data sources".
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You can simply reinstall PVsyst. You should not "work" in the C:\program files\ area, which is pror^tected by Windows.
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Detailed electrical losses: Module Layout
André Mermoud replied to george__'s topic in Shadings and tracking
This percentage concerns the I/V curve calculation for one sub-module. It means that when 1 corner is shaded, 10% of the cells are shaded, 33% of the cells when 2 corners are shaded, etc. This affect the I/V shape of each shaded submodule. By the way this real shape has almost no impact on the full sub-array shaded I/V characteristics. Only the number of shaded sub-modules - whatever the number of cells shaded - is significant. -
The calculation of the IAM loss on diffuse is based on the hypothesis that the Diffuse is isotropic. This means that the diffuse irradiance contribution is the same whatever the direction of the sky. Therefore we can calculate an integral of the IAM loss (function) over all the sky directions "seen" by the collector plane. This integral is independent on the sun position, as well as the goegraphic location. This is a constant value, only dependent on the system geometry.
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There are 2 input current limitations in PVsyst: - At the sizing time: some manufacturers specify a maximum ISC current (or sometimes a maximum PV power) for the array to be connected on the inverter. To my understanding, this doesn't make much sense as the inverter is normally able to limit the input current (or power) by itself. The only cases where this should be respected are when this is a contractual condition, which affects the warranty. This will provide an error message, and the prohect cannot be created as such. - During operation, up to now there was a input parameter of the inverter "Minimum Voltage for getting Pnom". This corresponds indeed to an input current limiting, managed by the inverter. Since recent versions of PVsyst, this current limit may also be explicitly defined, alternatively to VminPnom. These 2 varialbes are closely related: Imax * VminPnom = Pnom !
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If so this it is a bug. However there are so much possibilities with custom ASCII files... Please send us the original data file, the corresponding *.SIT file, as well as the *.MEF file you have used for this import. Please address them to support@pvsyst.com.
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Yes, if you are using the tool "Databases > Import ASCII meteo data", you have the opportunity of importing Array temperatures in hourly values. And afterwards, to use these values during the simulation.
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'Clearness index of the best clear daysis very high' problem
André Mermoud replied to Solarian's topic in Meteo data
The clear day model is well established, and represents thre real data with an accuracy of 2 to 3% (depending on the Linke coefficient). If you have measured data far over these values (daily sums), either you are not using the correct solar geometry (the latitude or altitude is incorrect), or your data are not correct. I can't see any other possibility. This is physically impossible. NB: It is possible to measure temporarily high irradiances, up to 1300 or even 1500 W/m2 perpendicularly to the sun. This is due to a bright sun cumulated with a reflexion on a neighbour cloud. But these are transitory phenomenons, during some few seconds or minutes. Never a full day. -
No sorry, we did not yet have time for developing this.
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Importing "Plane of Array" (POA) data is not possible with daily values, because we don't have any model for creating a random distribution (synthetic hourly data model) from POA values. The error message is probably erroneous.
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6.68 and 6.67 version Import ASCII problem
André Mermoud replied to baohua's topic in Problems / Bugs
Yes, sorry. The import of ASCII measured data (for a system) don't work in the versions 6.60 to 6.68. This will be corrected in the version 6.69. NB: This concerns System data import (creation of *.DAM files). The import of Meteo data works correctly. -
Cell temperature or back-of-module temperature
André Mermoud replied to spelland74's topic in How-to
For the temperature evaluation at eac hour, PVsyst doesn't use EffArrC nor EffArrR, which are yearly averages, and for the whole system. It calculated a first evaluation of the Tarray with the STC efficiency. Then it recalculates the PV module output at Geff and evaluates the real efficiency at this temperature. Finally it will use this efficiency in the temperature evaluation (i.e: one iteration). -
We update the database using the requests of the manufacturers, and publish it with each new issue of PVsyst. We can't of course follow all the new products of all manufacturers. It would be very big task, and we don't want to include data without the acknowledgement of the manufacturer. Therefore, please ask your provider/manufacturer to take contact with us for updating the database. The database of PVsyst holds now about 13'800 PV modules and 4'800 inverters. Nevertheless you can easily create your own components by yourself. The easiest way is to choose a similar existing device in the database, modify its parameters according to the manufacturer's datasheets, and save it under a new name, therefore creating a new file in your database. For Crystalline modules, except Isc, Vco, Impp and Vmpp, nb of cells in series and module sizes, you can let all the other parameters (mainly Rserie, Rshunt, Rsh(0) and RshExp) at their default value. You have a checkbox near to each parameter for retrieving the values proposed by PVsyst.
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If your system is a tracking system (one axis), you have indeed the following variables in the variables list: - Tracking plane tilt - Tracking plane azimuth - Tracking phi angle
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Sorry, these 3 additional lines in the report are in development. It was a mistake that they appeared in the version 6.68 (also the GCR os incorrect: expressed ar ratio instead of percentage). . This will be correct in the next version 6.69.
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Cell temperature or back-of-module temperature
André Mermoud replied to spelland74's topic in How-to
The only way of estimating the Uc and Uv values corresponding to your site is to avail of on-site measured data (Tcell, Tamb, Gincid and Wind velocity). Theses measurements should be performed in hourly values (or sub-hourly), and cover a significant period, representing all meteo situations (ideally several months). The Uc and Uv values will then be derived from these data by a bi-linear fit. Now what you are doing here is to use the PVsyst model (which involves the Uc value, and Uv=0) for trying to evaluate Uc and Uv values (that you are "supposing"). This doesnt make sense: It's the snake biting its tail. The only thing you are doing here is to check the calculation of PVsyst. And of course, if you don't use the exact calculation mode (variables) used by PVsyst, you will have different results. NB: The Uv = 20 W/m2K that you have chosen here corresponds to a semi-integrated system. Please carefully read the help "Project design > Array and system losses". -
Grid Power Limitation - Truncation of Input Value
André Mermoud replied to JMBalGrp's topic in Problems / Bugs
The 4th decimal is really not significant here. A limit of 27.2 or 27.17 MW will probably have exactly the same results. -
The basic information is indeed the cables resistance, as seen from the input of the inverters. You should calculat this using your usual electrician rules. The STC percentage is only a simplified way of defining a "reasonable" value for a new project. You don't need to calculate it (it will be calculated automatically when you will enter the cable resistance).
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It is one module in the width of the shed of course.