JaviBrave Posted November 8, 2022 Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) Hello everyone. I'm learning how to use Pvsyst v6.70 and I have a trouble related to shadings field with 2 orientations. I have tried many options to solve this but It makes no sense for me. Please need help. I add the 3D shading views: https://ibb.co/zWM72mq https://ibb.co/6rd4sJ9 Also the compatibility system-shadings given by Pvsyst: https://ibb.co/9b88mTj It sames easy to see both orientations of the PV modules (azimut 0º and 45º). Both have 45º tilt. How it is possible this happens? It's an easy correlation between azimut 0º and 45º. In the 3D images it makes totally clear. Where did the 10.8º come from? I add the System Overview to make myself more clear: Count=86 Orientation parameters Field type: Several orientations 2 orientations: tilt/azim = 45°/0°, 45°/45°, Compatibility between System and Shadings Orientación #1 inclin/acim = 45° / 0° 4 sub-arrays PNom = 25 kWp, modules area = 137 m² shading 3D fields 1 Tablas, : , total rough area , . 24 m² Orientation #1: The Shading area is lower than the PV modules area. Orientación #2 inclin/acim = 45° / 45° 0 sub-arrays No sub-array defined shading 3D fields No shading 3D fields defined Orientation #2: No Shading field defined System parameters 4 sub-arrays defined Sub-array #1 Sub-generador #1 Orientation #1Tilt/Azimut = 45.0° / 0.0° PV modules: 2 strings of 11 modules in series, 22 total Pnom = 300 Wp Pnom array = 6.6 kWp, Area = 36 m² Inverters (6.00 kWac) 2 MPPT inputs, Total 6 kWac, Sub-array #2 Sub-generador #2 Orientation #1Tilt/Azimut = 45.0° / 0.0° PV modules: 2 strings of 11 modules in series, 22 total Pnom = 300 Wp Pnom array = 6.6 kWp, Area = 36 m² Inverters (6.00 kWac) 2 MPPT inputs, Total 6 kWac, Sub-array #3 Sub-generador #3 Orientation #1Tilt/Azimut = 45.0° / 0.0° PV modules: 1 strings of 7 modules in series, 7 total Pnom = 300 Wp Pnom array = 2.10 kWp, Area = 12 m² Inverters (2.00 kWac) 1 units, Total 2 kWac, PNom Sub-array #4 Sub-generador #4 Orientation #1Tilt/Azimut = 45.0° / 0.0° PV modules: 2 strings of 16 modules in series, 32 total Pnom = 300 Wp Pnom array = 9.6 kWp, Area = 53 m² Inverters (8.20 kWac) 2 MPPT inputs, Total 8 kWac, You have defined an orientation #2 with Tilt = 45° and azimut = 45° but no PV array has been attributed to it. Shading scene parameters 9 fields defined Total Area 140.9 m² Field #1: polygonal 14 modulos izq Total area = 23.8 m² Orientation #1 Tilt/Azimut = 45.0° / 0.0° Field #2: polygonal 5 modulos izq Total area = 8.5 m² Orientation #-1 Tilt/Azimut = 45.0° / 0.0° Not matching any definition in the "Orientation" part ! Field #3: polygonal 3 modulos izq Total area = 5.1 m² Orientation #-1 Tilt/Azimut = 45.0° / 0.0° Not matching any definition in the "Orientation" part ! Field #4: polygonal 14 modulos der Total area = 23.8 m² Orientation #-1 Tilt/Azimut = 45.0° / 0.0° Not matching any definition in the "Orientation" part ! Field #5: polygonal 5 modulos der Total area = 8.5 m² Orientation #-1 Tilt/Azimut = 45.0° / 0.0° Not matching any definition in the "Orientation" part ! Field #6: polygonal 3 modulos der Total area = 5.1 m² Orientation #-1 Tilt/Azimut = 45.0° / 0.0° Not matching any definition in the "Orientation" part ! Field #7: polygonal Campo poligonal Total area = 11.9 m² Orientation #-1 Tilt/Azimut = 45.0° / 0.0° Not matching any definition in the "Orientation" part ! Field #8: polygonal Campo poligonal Total area = 27.2 m² Orientation #-1 Tilt/Azimut = 45.0° / 45.0° Not matching any definition in the "Orientation" part ! Field #9: polygonal Campo poligonal Total area = 27.2 m² Orientation #-1 Tilt/Azimut = 45.0° / 45.0° Not matching any definition in the "Orientation" part ! Orientation #-1 8 tables, Area = 117.2 m² Simulacion 221107 List of other shading objects Obstacle #-9 Cuerpo del edificio Obstacle #-9 Tejado 2 fases + aguilones Obstacle #-9 Tejado 2 fases + aguilones Obstacle #-9 Mansarda Obstacle #-9 Prisma - chimenea Use in simulation: Detailed electrical loss using Module Layout Edited November 8, 2022 by JaviBrave
Michele Oliosi Posted November 10, 2022 Posted November 10, 2022 Please double click on fields #2 to #9. In your system summary you can see that no orientation was defined for them: they have orientation #-1 instead of #1 or #2. So please open the objects and select the relevant orientation.
JaviBrave Posted November 14, 2022 Author Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) I just don't understand. It has to be a bug. I see what you tell me about the orientation #-1 in the system summary. However, in each field between #2 and #7 it is 0º orientation which matchs with the orientation #1 defined in its menu. Also, for fields #8 and #9 it is written 45º orientation, just as orientation #2 in "Orientation" menu. Those orientations can be clearly seen in the shading views. If I delete the fields #8 and #9 and also delete orientation #2 (45º). There is no problem with fields #2 to #7... The problem appears if I try to set different orientations. Sorry if I have newbie doubts but I cannot keep trying without solving this. Thank you. Edited November 14, 2022 by JaviBrave
Michele Oliosi Posted November 15, 2022 Posted November 15, 2022 There may be a bug indeed. You can send us your project (export it via the main window > File > Export projects) for review. You can also try the following: within the 3D scene there is Tools > Orientation management, which can allow you to assign tables to a specific orientation.
JaviBrave Posted November 15, 2022 Author Posted November 15, 2022 I have seen this menu Tools/Orientation management but it has no sense for me either... I upload the project to wetransfer. If you prefer other type to send it to you I can change it. https://we.tl/t-9ag1PzjBSU Thanks in advance. Regards.
Michele Oliosi Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 @JaviBrave Here is a quick gif of the procedure, hope that helps !
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