Ruslan Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Please help me find my mistake with calculation of Shading limit angle or give formula for it.For horisontal basis I receive formula :θ = arctg ( sin β / (Pitch/L - cos β)) where β - Tilt of tableL width of table = const = 3.3 m (2 portrait modules)My calculation for θ (Pitch, β), degree :θ (5, 30) = 54.7 PVsyst : 38.0θ (5, 36) = 64.0 PVsyst : 40.1θ (9, 30) = 17.1 PVsyst : 15.2θ (9, 36) = 20,4 PVsyst : 17.2θ (11, 30) = 12.7 PVsyst : 11.5θ (11, 36) = 15.2 PVsyst : 13.2looking forward to hearing from any who knows why I receive different results.Regards,Ruslan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unilhexio Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I think your formula is wrong. This is the one I obtained:θ = arctg ( L*sin β / (Pitch - L*cos β)) Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruslan Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 Dear unilhexio,Our formulas is same : L*sin β / (Pitch - L*cos β) = L*sin β / L ( Pitch/L-cos β ) = sin β / (Pitch/L - cos β )Please give another variant. But if You and me have same formulas, error in the PVsyst? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unilhexio Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Dear Rusian,Your formula is the following:θ = arctg ( sin β / (Pitch/L - cos β)) And the one I obtained is:θ = arctg ( L*sin β / (Pitch - L*cos β)) These are not same.Be aware that you are subtracting 'L - cos β' (this is, a distance in meters and cos β with no units)... I have tested my formula and it leads to exactly the same result than PVsyst do.Regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruslan Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 Dear unilhexio,Our formulas is same. My dont has expression L-cos β. Only Pitch/L - cos β.θ = arctg ( sin β / (Pitch/L - cos β)) = arctg ( L*sin β / (Pitch - L*cos β)) and gives same results (Im checked out now) Please give me your arguments and results will be same. For example I'm calulated :L=3.3 mPitch = 9 mβ = 36 degree.for my formula θ = 20.38 dergree, for yours formula θ = 20.38 degree, PVsyst gived 17.2If Yours result is different, please write me to eynesr@gmail.com, I will send You my excel - file with all calculations.Best regards,Ruslan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unilhexio Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Dear Ruslan,I think you are doing something wrong.Our formulas are different. You are substracting cos β (it does not have units) and L (its units are meters).I think the following image can clarify the problem:https://s28.postimg.org/4ufl2kv8p/20170110_173439.jpgFor your example (β=36 and L=3.3):θ = arctg ( L*sin β / (Pitch - L*cos β))Then:θ = arctg ( 3.3*sin 36º / (9 - 3.3*cos 36º)) = = arctg ( 3.3 * 0.58779 / (9 - 3.3 * 0.809) = = arctg ( 1.93969 / 6.33024) = arctg (0.3064) = 17.036ºIf you do not find the problem, then tell me and I will write you an email to receive your excel calculation.Are you converting the tilt angle into radians in excel calculation?Regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruslan Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 Dear unilhexio ,I'm found error. Its convertation rad-grad and grad-rad. I'm forgot multiply Pi() for grad to rad.and our formulas and pictures is same :θ = arctg ( sin 36º / (9/3.3 - cos 36º )) = arctg ( 0.58779 / (9/3.3 - 0.809))= arctg (0.58779 / 1.91827) = arctg (0.3064) = 17.04ºMany thanks for Your time,Best regards,Ruslan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unilhexio Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Dear Ruslan,I am glad we found the mistake. It is very common to skip the radians conversion to operate with trigonometric operators in excel.Best regards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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